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Akin to Jane Austen: Fabulous Information about the Austen Family Tree

July 30, 2012 by Vic

Inquiring readers, One of the benefits of overseeing a long-lasting blog is the number of Jane Austen aficionados one meets via email and online. Ronald Dunning, a descendant of Jane Austen’s brother, Francis, recently emailed me to discuss his new genealogy site and Jane Austen family website. After I visited the sites and read Deb Barnum’s excellent post on the topic at Jane Austen in Vermont, I invited Mr. Dunning to explain how he managed to fill in so many members on his family tree. When all was said and done, what excited me most was when I saw the resemblance between Mr. Dunning and his illustrious ancestor. The Austens do indeed live on. Enjoy!

Sir Francis William Austen, Admiral of the Fleet, and descendant Ronald Dunning

Hi Vic! I’m a 4th-great-grandson of Frank Austen, and a committed genealogist. I’ve been working for quite a few years on an extended and inclusive genealogy of the Austen family, which can be seen at RootsWeb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~janeausten. It’s an ongoing project, subject to addition and revision, but has reached an advanced state of maturity. Various writers on the Austen family in England and the US have used it, and I’ve even found it cited as a reference source for biographies at Wikipedia.

Joan Corder

I’ve just posted a new website dedicated to Jane Austen’s Family, which was announced to the public at last week’s JAS AGM. The address is www.janeaustensfamily.co.uk. The first content is Joan Corder’s “Akin to Jane” – a 1953 manuscript listing as many descendants of George and Cassandra Austen as the author could find. Joan recorded something like 320 descendants of George and Cassandra Austen, which is very good going for 1953. The biographical detail in the manuscript makes it invaluable. She could never find a publisher and the book exists only in a couple of manuscript copies, one of which is at the Jane Austen’s House Museum at Chawton. When I first began working on the site, I wasn’t sure whether it would interest anyone – I was simply driven on by my obsession with family history – but it’s been well received, to my delight. The Museum is pleased that they can now retire Joan Corder’s fragile original.

Joan’s page on Jane Austen in Akin to Jane Austen. The fragile original has been replaced with interactive online pages.

With the benefit of modern genealogical facilities, I’ve increased the tally from 320 to over 1200 – all of whom are to be found on my RootsWeb site. I have to admit that I have included very little anecdotal information, it is mainly genealogy; and all details except the surname are withheld for anyone born after 1915, though I have them on my computer database.

Austen (l) and Austen-Leigh (r) family coat of arms.

You asked for an anecdotal example for Jane Austen’s World readers that would flesh out the details of my research. I immediately thought of James Brydges, 8th Baron Chandos of Sudeley and Elizabeth Barnard – Cassandra Leigh’s great-grandparents. Cassandra was of course Jane Austen’s mother.

Hearing Miss Barnard was engaged to a party with a fashionable conjuror, who showed the ladies their future husbands in a glass, he by a proper application to the cunning man beforehand, and by a proper position at the time, was exhibited in the glass to Miss Barnard: clapping her hands she cried, ‘Then Mr. Bridges is my destination, and such he shall be.’”

This lovely anecdote was recorded in a footnote, in The Complete Peerage,under the entry for James Brydges, the 8th Lord Chandos of Sudeley. The lady in question, Elizabeth Barnard, did become his wife. Elizabeth’s father Sir Henry Barnard was a “Turkey merchant,” a trader whose business interest was in importing from Constantinople. Her husband James Brydges was himself the Ambassador of the “Turkey Company” (properly the Levant Company) in Constantinople from 1680 to 1686.

Sir James Brydges (1642–1714), 8th Baron Chandos, Turkey Company Ambassador to Constantinople

Elizabeth gave birth to twenty-two children. We are familiar with the mortal threat to women’s lives from childrearing – three of Jane Austens’ sisters-in-law suffered that fate. Elizabeth survived her twenty-two deliveries and lived to the age of 77. Not all of her children fared so well – only fifteen were baptized, and of those, three sons and five daughters survived infancy. This was far from unusual – Antonia Fraser, in her study of 17th-century woman, The Weaker Sex, stated that it was normal for only a third of children born to a large family to survive. Their eldest child, Mary Bridges, was one of the survivors. The link to Jane Austen can now be traced within a few generations. Mary married Theophilus Leigh; they were Cassandra Leigh’s paternal grandparents and the parents of Theophilus Leigh, who served as Master of Balliol College in Oxford from 1726 until his death in 1785. Theophilus Jr.’s brother Thomas Leigh married Jane Walker, and they were Cassandra Leigh’s parents. Cassandra, who married George Austen, gave birth to eight children, including Jane Austen in 1775. (And she too survived to a ripe old age, outliving her daughter Jane by 10 years.)

Click on image for details. Image @A Reading Affair

I hope you enjoyed this small sampling of the information that my sites offer about Jane Austen’s family. Deb Barnum from Jane Austen in Vermont has interviewed me, and written a very thorough review and detailed explanation of how to find information on the sites.

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Posted in Historic Publications, jane austen, Jane Austen's World, Regency Life, Regency World | Tagged Akin to Austen, Francis Austen, Genealogy, Jane Austen House Museum, Joan Corder, Ronald Dunning, Sir Francis William Austen | 16 Comments

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  1. on July 30, 2012 at 01:21 Olivia Andem's avatar Olivia Andem

    Thanks for your webskte and articles which are always so interesting and inspiring.


  2. on July 30, 2012 at 02:53 aurora's avatar aurora

    Very interesting and really exciting to read that genealogy about Jane Austen’s family. I enjoyed reading it. Thank you.


  3. on July 30, 2012 at 05:33 Caroline's avatar Caroline

    I love reading biographies. Loved the snippet about how Elizabeth Barnard was persuaded to look favourably upon her suitor. Shades of Jane Eyre.


  4. on July 30, 2012 at 09:32 Sophy's avatar Sophy

    Poor Elizabeth! Her husband didn’t give her any rest!


    • on July 30, 2012 at 19:40 ronalddunning's avatar ronalddunning

      Sophy, Deb – Antonia Fraser remarks in her book that while the aesthetic ideal was a slender figure, in fact the familiar shape for a woman of that time was round-of-belly.


    • on July 30, 2012 at 20:53 Arnie Perlstein's avatar Arnie Perlstein

      Sophy, as I explained at the 2009 JASNA AGM in Portland, Oregon, the principal theme of the “shadow story” of Northanger Abbey was that of the horror of serial pregnancy and frequent death in childbirth, which was the norm among the English gentry for centuries, including the period of Jane Austen’s own lifetime:

      http://sharpelvessociety.blogspot.com/2011/05/general-tilney-as-bluebeard-murdering.html

      @JaneAustenCode on Twitter


  5. on July 30, 2012 at 11:03 BookLady Deb's avatar Janeite Deb

    Hello Vic! – so glad you posted on this [and thanks for the links!] – Ron has indeed created an amazing piece of history, now at our fingertips, each name with a story such as this – his head must be spinning!

    And indeed, poor Elizabeth! 22 children! – I think I would have run mad into the woods upon seeing that mustache! [is that for real??}

    Ron, I wonder of the connection with the Brydges family – the same family that Jane knew [she in all probablility was proposed to by a Brydges], and her friend Madame Lefroy’s maiden name? – were they all related and fairly closely? – I do not have my books in front of me so cannot check….

    Thanks for this Vic – spreading Ron’s wonderful work to the wider world..!

    Best,
    Deb


    • on July 30, 2012 at 20:08 ronalddunning's avatar ronalddunning

      Deb, there were three lines of Brydges associated with the Austens. Cassandra Leigh’s Brydges ancestors (who included the Barons of Chandos) were an ancient family from the Welsh Marches, the land on the border between England and Wales. Anne (Brydges) Lefroy’s family were of Wootton Court, Kent – on the other side of the country. Edward (Austen) Knight’s wife was Elizabeth Bridges, of Goodnestone, Kent. Wootton and Goodnestone are probably less than ten miles apart, but there is no suggestion that I’m aware of, of a family relationship between the Brydges and the Bridges. One of Anne’s brothers, the fanatical genealogist Sir Samuel Egerton Brydges, fought and lost a court case in the attempt to prove that he was related to the last duke of Chandos (who died in 1789), and to claim the barony of Chandos of Sudeley.


  6. on July 30, 2012 at 12:26 Arnie Perlstein's avatar Arnie Perlstein

    A treasure hiding in plain sight in Ron Dunning’s Austen genealogy:

    http://sharpelvessociety.blogspot.com/2012/07/pride-prejudices-astonishing-connection.html


  7. on July 30, 2012 at 20:52 murosymuebles's avatar murosymuebles

    Reblogged this on Murosymuebles's Blog.


    • on July 30, 2012 at 23:48 Vic's avatar Vic

      Thank you so much!


    • on July 31, 2012 at 05:39 Ron Dunning's avatar Ron Dunning

      Thanks from me, too.


  8. on July 31, 2012 at 20:50 Laurie's avatar Laurie

    Fantastic article Vic, what a treasure of information. I only just recently found out that Anna Chancellor who played Caroline Bingley in the BBC 1995 Pride and Prejudice is a great niece (8) to Jane Austen. I love her “The Real Jane Austen” documentary.


    • on July 31, 2012 at 20:55 Ron Dunning's avatar Ron Dunning

      Hi Laurie
      She’s a 5th-great-niece, same as me.


      • on July 31, 2012 at 20:55 Ron Dunning's avatar Ron Dunning

        (Oops – I’m a nephew.)


  9. on July 31, 2012 at 21:21 Laurie's avatar Laurie

    Dear Ron, Whoops!!!! I must have heard her wrong on that program! Thank you so much for letting me know! and a big thank you for sharing your wonderful information with all of us! What a treasure and a treat to talk with you!



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