Inquiring reader: Sit back, relax, and grab a cup of coffee or a glass of wine! This is a long post about foxhunting. (Note: because of the helpful suggestions from equestrian readers, crucial edits have been made.)
The fox hunting scenes in PBS Masterpiece Classic’s Downton Abbey fascinated me and prompted me to ask: How accurate was the depiction of this sport? Aside from the fashions, how different was fox hunting in the Edwardian era from the Regency era? And what happened to that wily fox, whose odds of escaping a score of determined hunters and a pack of excited hounds must have been close to zero? Or were they? My research uncovered a few interesting bits of information:
Description of the Hunt:
In 1910, 350 hunts existed in Britain, almost twice as many as today. Foxhunting was one of the few country sports in which women played an active role. It had become so popular that foxes were even imported from Europe to meet demand. The anti-hunt movement was a fledgling organisation concerned largely with horse beating and vivisection. For the vast majority, fox-hunting was seen as a harmless and ancient tradition. – Manor House
The Master will sound his horn and he and the hounds will take off on the hunt. Everyone else follows. The hounds are cast or let into coverts, which are rough brush areas of undergrowth where foxes often lay in hiding during the day. Sometimes the huntsmen must move from covert to covert, recasting the hounds until a scent is discovered. Once the hounds pick up the scent of a fox, they give tongue. The hounds will trail and track for as long as possible. Either the fox will go to ground or find an underground den for safety and protection or the hounds will wear him out and overtake him in a kill. Temperature and humidity are huge factors in how well hounds keep the scent of a fox. Often the chase involves extreme speed through brush and growth. A rider will need to be skilled in racing, jumping brooks, logs, brush, and the horses must be in excellent condition as well.” – The history of fox hunting
Filming the Fox Hunt for Downton Abbey:
While the crew were at the castle they filmed various scenes, inside and out. Lady Carnarvon explained that on one particular day they filmed a hunt. “It was wonderful. It was a beautiful day on the day they were doing it too. The funny thing is the one thing I asked them not to do was go across the lawns because there was to be a wedding. They started very early and they were all hanging around. They were going up and down for hours on end, and then suddenly just out of the laurel bushes went a fox – a real fox. The fox took off towards the secret gardens and the hounds turned in full pursuit. The fox wasn’t caught. It just ran off. The hounds were eventually brought back having gone through a couple of cold frames in the garden. I could see the location manager thinking that is the one thing I asked them not to do,” she laughed. – Highclere Castle is the star of the screen
History of the Fox Hunt:
Talk of horses, and hounds, and of system of kennel!
Give me Leicestershire nags, and the hounds of old Meynell!
While Hugo Meynell is widely considered to be the father of modern foxhunting as we know it today (his Quorn Hunt between 1753 and 1800 was quite fashionable), hunting foxes with hounds was not new. Evidence exists that fox hunting has been practiced since the 14th century. In 1534 a Norfolk farmer used his dogs to catch a fox, which consisted of hunting on foot and trailing the animal back to its den. Foxes were thought to be “vermin” and left to commoners to hunt. In those early times, royalty and the aristocracy hunted stags, or deer, which required great swathes of open land and an investment in horses, hounds, and stables. Considering the chasing and killing of vermin to be beneath their status, the aristocracy continued to chase stags until these animals became scarce.
Hugo Meynell began breeding hounds that could keep up with the foxes at the same time that an increased number of 18th century men could devote their time to leisurely pursuits. Consequently, the sport of fox hunting began to take off. (See Rowlandson, The Humours of Fox Hunting: The Dinner, 1799 for a depiction of a group of men enjoying the after effects of a hunt.)
There were no formal hunt clubs during this period. Rather, large landowners kept hounds that accompanied them on private hunts. The hunts were not very effective in controlling the number of foxes in any given area, but the sport was safer than the practice of using spring traps, which could snare a human as well as a fox. (Animal traps from the 16th century. )
By the early 19th century, a more formal style of foxhunting began to be organized. Roads and railways had cut the land into smaller portions, and it became more convenient for rich landowners and their guests to hunt foxes. Railways also gave a larger number of people in towns and cities easy access to the countryside and an opportunity to join in the sport.
The rising middle clases, eager to improve their social standing, joined the clubs, and by the late 19th century the sport had reached the height of its popularity. In fact, the demand for foxes was so great that some hunts were called off if the probability was high that the fox would get killed. Foxes were so scarce that a large numbers of the animals were imported from Europe to be sold in England.
The oldest continuous fox hunt in England is the Bilsdale Hunt in Yorkshire, established by George Villiers, the Duke of Buckingham in 1668. Since 2005, foxhunting with hounds has been illegal in Britain, but there are groups that are still unhappy with this turn of events, for foxes are still allowed to be hunted and shot in England. Supporters of the foxhunt state that organized foxhunts never caught enough foxes to affect the total population and that the kills were clean. In addition, foxhunting supports a minor economy of farriers, grooms, horse stables, dog kennels, trainers, veterinarians, shops, inns, taverns, and the like. Since it became organized, the hunt also provided a spectator sport to local villages and market-towns and inspired railroads to expand their services so that participants could join the hunts and travel up and back within a day. The landscape also benefited from the hunt in that landowners planted low bushy coverts for the foxes and maintained their hedges to facilitate jumps. – Encyclopedia of Traditional British Rural Sports: History of Fox Hunting
Foxhunting Schedule:
Fox hunting began on the first Monday of November; traditionally a hunt was held on Boxing Day (Dec 26).
In the early morning workers stopped up the holes of the dens where the foxes rested, forcing these nocturnal animals to find shelter above ground during the day.
Around 11 a.m. the riders (field) would assemble, with around 40-50 hounds.
The Master of the Hounds was in charge of the hunt and supervised the field, hounds, and staff. The huntsman, who had bred the hounds and worked with them, would be in charge of the pack during the hunt.
Once the group was assembled, the hunstman would lead the pack of hounds and field to where a fox might be hiding. When the fox was flushed out into the open, the group would pursue the fox, with the huntsman leading the group. The field would follow at a gallop and watch the hounds chase down the fox.
When the fox was cornered, the hounds took over.
Hunt festivities included lawn meets, where food and drink were served to the people who gathered together, and hunt balls.The cost of horses, outfits, and operating expenses made the activity prohibitive for those with limited means, and only those with a great deal of money could afford to participate. – What Jane Austen Ate and Charles Dickens Knew, Daniel Pool – p171-173
Women and Foxhunting:
Few women rode in a fox hunt during the Regency period. It took great skill and courage for a woman to join the hunt, for in those days the side-saddle lacked the leaping horn, which offered a more secure seat and made taking fences safer.
By the mid-19th century, women began to join in the sport in greater numbers. An article written by Catriona Parratt discusses women’s involvement:
“Preeminent among these activities was foxhunting, one of the few sports for which there seems to have been no rigidly prescriptive code limiting women’s participation. In fact, some women embraced the sport with a zest which was evidently not considered inappropriate. This may be explained in part by the extreme social exclusivity which attended to the leaders of the foxhunting set. Members of the aristocracy and the upper middle classes were probably sufficiently secure in their status to ignore, to some extent, more bourgeoise notions of respectability… According to one enthusiast, 200 riders was considered a poor turn out, while few meets attracted less than 100 men and women. A figure of thirty women is given in an account of the Tipperary Hunt in the 1902 season, but the overall evidence is very impressionistic…
There are also several accounts of women achieving the honour of being the first to ride in at the death of the fox, something which seems not to have offended their supposedly more delicate sensibilities. In a 1900 meeting of the Dartmoor Pack, the brush [tail] was awarded to a Miss Gladys Bulteel, of whom it was noted that her pony “was piloted with exceptional skill,” while in a previous month’s run of the same pack, a Miss Dorothy Bainbridge claimed the coveted trophy. None of this is to suggest that women participated in equal numbers or on equal terms with men… Rather, it is clear that some women were active, enthusiastic, and skillful participants who were drawn to the sport by “the enjoyment, the wholesomeness, even the nerve-bracing dash of danger.” – Athletic “Womanhood”: Exploring Sources for Female Sport in Victorian and Edwardian England Cartriona M. Parratt*, Lecturer, Dept. of Physical Educ
Comments about the Fox Hunt in Downton Abbey from the Horse and Hounds forum:
As I researched foxhunting, curiosity led me to a discussion forum at the Horse and Hounds website. I wanted to know what the experts thought of the foxhunting scenes in Downton Abbey. Here they are in a nutshell, with the names of the individuals taken off:
They should have told that daft lady [Mary] side saddle person to put a bloody thong and lash on her hunting whip and hold it the right way too..thong end up please. Suppose we should be grateful it was’nt filmed in high summer! And WHY film the field and hounds all mingled but apparently in full cry..UUURRRGGGHH it drives me nuts.”
“Not unless they have a leather loop on one end for the thong and lash? Do sidesaddle whips have bone “gate hooks” on the top end?? In one shot the lady did have a thong attached ..but still holding it the wrong way anyway, shortly before, no lash!! Pathetic.”
“My thoughts that the horses were not typical or hunters of that era, also would there have been a coloured, I thought that the craze for colours was a recent thing and they were frowned on in ‘those days’. “
I am amazed that finally a TV programme has made the effort to show not only a hunting scene but a lady hunting on PRIMETIME TV and people are moaning about minor details! I hunt side saddle, I do it because I love it, so I was over the moon to finally see something relevant to it on t.v. Would you have preferred they didn’t show it at all and cut the hunting scenes entirely??
Lets not forget these programmes are filmed for public entertainment, they are not historical documentarys. Please could we all be a little more supportive of equines on TV regardless of the reasons, then maybe we would see more.”
“Well if you want to moan about the most minute details of the scenes (and don’t forget, what you see on screen in a STORY not a documentary !!!) why not start with the fact that the forward seat was unknown in Edwardian times?”
We noticed the coloured horse too and said no way would they have had one of them!! They only pulled carts in those days. Still – we all got excited when the hunting scene started!!”
Did anyone spot which hunt’s tail coat was being worn by Mr Evelyn Napier?”
“It was the vine and craven hunt huntsman David Trotman scarlet coat with gold vine leafs on black collar. The Vine & Craven [were] filming at Highclere Castle…”Horse and Hounds forum –
Master of the Hunt and other staff:
The Master of the Fox Hounds (MFH) or Joint Master of the Fox Hounds operates the sporting activities of the hunt, maintains the kennels, works with, and sometimes is, the Huntsman. The word of the Master is the final word in the field and in the kennels. The Huntsman is responsible for directing the hounds in the course of the hunt.
The Huntsman usually carries a horn to communicate to the hounds, followers, and whippers-in. Whippers-in are the assistants to the Huntsman. Their main job is to keep the pack all together.” – Human roles in fox hunting
From Baily’s magazine of sports and pastimes, Volume 2, 1861, p. 182: “As well might you assert that because a nobleman throws open his house and grounds to the public one or two days in the week from free goodwill that he has not the right to exclude any persons he may object to. A Master of fox hounds hunts his country upon the same conditions. Any landowner can prevent him riding over his fields or drawing his coverts. By the landowners he stands or falls. He recognizes no other power to interfere with his conduct in the field.”
Description of the above image: Edgar Lubbock LLB was the Master of the Blankney Hunt at the turn of the 20th century. He was born on 22 February 1847 in St James, London the eighth son of Sir John William and Harriett Lubbock. Educated at Eton and the University of London he studied Law and became an accomplished lawyer. Through his career he held varying positions, including Lieutenant of the City of London, Director of Whitbread Brewery, Director of the Bank of England and in 1907 Lord Lieutenant of Lincolnshire. He died in London on 9 September 1907 aged 60 whilst Master of the Blankney Hunt. – Metheringham Area Mews
The Dogs:
The true point of riding to hounds was (and is) to watch the hounds work. Those who galloped wildly or jumped unnecessarily were termed “larkers” – an insult – and disdained by the serious hunters. – Word wenches, fox hunt
The hounds are the most vocal component of the hunt and the means by which the fox is flushed out and then chased until it was too exhausted to go farther. In England, there were two breeds of dogs that were necessary to the hunt: Harriers, which are slightly smaller than foxhounds, and who chased the fox over hill and dale; and terriers, who followed the fox into the den and dug it out.
Harriers (Hare Hounds or Heirer)
The Harrier, also known as the Hare Hound or the Heirer, is a hardy hound, with a strong nose, that was developed in England to hunt hare. Hare hunting has always been popular in England, sometimes being even more popular than fox hunting because hunters could trail their hare hounds on foot, without the need for the many horses required to follow fox hounds on the hunt. Moreover, hare hunting was never reserved to royalty; it was always accessible to commoners, who could add their few Harriers to a “scratch pack” made up of hounds owned by different people and still participate in the sport. Reportedly, in 1825, the slow-moving Harrier – in size between the larger English Foxhound and the smaller Beagle – was crossed with Foxhounds to improve its speed and enable it to better hunt fox in addition to hare. – Harrier overview
Terriers
With the growth of popularity of fox-hunting in Britain in the 18th and 19th centuries, terriers were extensively bred to follow the red fox, and also the Eurasian badger, into its underground burrow, referred to as “terrier work” and “going to ground”.[1] The purpose of the terrier is that it locate the quarry, and either bark and bolt it free or to a net, or trap or hold it so that it can be dug down to and killed or captured.[2] Working terriers can be no wider than the animal they hunt (chest circumference or “span” less than 35 cm/14in), in order to fit into the burrows and still have room to maneuver.[3] As a result, the terriers often weigh considerably less than the fox (10 kg/22 lbs)[4] and badger (12 kg/26 lbs),[5] making these animals formidable quarry for the smaller dog. – Wikipedia

My terrier no longer has the slender girth to chase a fox into its den, for he eats too many doggie biscuits.
Read more about terriers:
The Kill:
Foxes were killed in one of two ways:
1) Hounds chased the foxes until they were caught and then dispatched it. There seems to be a widespread disagreement about the kill, some saying it was quick, and that the fox died from a nip to the back of the neck, and others saying that the fox was repeatedly bitten or torn apart, and sometimes died slowly from its injuries.
2) The fox went to ground (inside a hole or den), and then was dug out with terriers.
Animal rights experts also found the chase itself, with the fox hunted to the point of exhaustion, cruel.
I could not show an image of a kill, so I’ve presented you with the opposite image: This young lurcher has adopted a fox cub. Jack, the hound, and Copper, the cub, are famous in the U.K. for their playful wrestling matches. Image @Animal Tourism.com
Final Words about Foxhunting in America:
Since Cora (the Countess of Grantham) in Downton Abbey was an American heiress, the information below regarding the American fox hunt is appropriate to this post:
Description of a Fox Hunt by a New England minister
Foxhunts were imported into America in the 17th century. In 1799, a wry New England minister gave a glimpse of the sport in the New World: “From about the first of Octor. this amusement begins, and continues till March or April. A party of 10, and to 20, or 30, with double the number of hounds, begins early in the morning, they are all well mounted. They pass thro’ groves, Leap fences, cross fields, and steadily pursue, in full chase wherever the hounds lead. At length the fox either buroughs out of their way, or they take him. If they happen to be near, when the hounds seize him, they take him alive, and put him into a bag and keep him for a chase the next day. They then retire in triumph, having obtained a conquest to a place where an Elegant supper is prepared. After feasting themselves, and feeding their prisoner, they retire to their own houses. The next morning they all meet at a place appointed, to give their prisoner another chance for his life. They confine their hounds, and let him out of the bag—away goes Reynard at liberty—after he has escaped half a mile—hounds and all are again in full pursuit, nor will they slack their course thro’ the day, unless he is taken. This exercise they pursue day after day, for months together. This diversion is attended by old men, as well as young—but chiefly by married people. I have seen old men, whose heads were white with age, as eager in the chase as a boy of 16. It is perfectly bewitching. The hounds indeed make delightful musick—when they happen to pass near fields, where horses are in pasture, upon hearing the hounds, they immediately begin to caper, Leap the fence and pursue the Chase—frequent instances have occurred, where in leaping the fence, or passing over gullies, or in the woods, the rider has been thrown from his horse, and his brains dashed out, or otherwise killed suddenly. This however never stops the chase—one or two are left to take care of the dead body, and the others pursue.” – Colonial Williamsburg, Personable Pooches
Comment made on a Word Wenches post by a reader who lives in Virginia’s hunt cup country: I live in Virginia hunt country, in fact in the Old Dominion hunt area. My property deed has one covenant on it. We must allow the huntmaster through. We can deny the rest of the hunt if we want. The covenant was signed by King Charles (I am not sure which one). Fauquier County has 3 hunts and the U.S. largest Steeplechase race, the Gold Cup. .. Many of the more recent mansions (post US Civil War through the 1920s) in Fauquier and neighboring Loudoun were built as hunt houses. – Word Wenches, Fox Hunting
Etiquette and Dress Code of a Fox Hunt:
The etiquette of the hunt field was (and is) as intricate and strict as that of the ballroom. I imagine (and please correct me if I am wrong), that each club has its own variation of rules. Loudoun County is west of Washington D.C. and sits near the middle of the hunt country of Northern Virginia, where Jacqueline Kennedy frequently hunted when she lived in Georgetown. Click here to read the extensive rules of etiquette of the Loudoun Hunt: Etiquette and the rules of Attire.
- Distinctions of the Equestrian Costume
- Fashion: Sidesaddle Lady
- Hunting Etiquette
- Riding Sidesaddle
More on the foxhunt:
- The early history of fox hunting
- Whiggery in the Hunt
- Heywood Hardy’s 19th century Paintings of The Fox Hunt
- Fox Hunting Terminology
- History of Fox Hunting – For the UK hunting ban
- Countryside Alliance: Love the Countryside – For foxhunting in the UK
- Interesting discussion about the fox hunting ban, both pro and con, on the BBC website
Addendum to original post:
This post began innocently enough, for I had no idea about the emotions surrounding the fox ban. Various views are presented in the comment section. Tony Grant, who writes for this blog and who lives in London, said in an email:
Because foxes are no longer hunted their population has expanded unbelievably. They no longer keep to the countryside but live in the towns and cities as scavengers. They live in dens created in parks and the bottom of peoples gardens. They scavenge dustbins. We have an epidemic where I live in South London. They walk down my road and enter my garden on a regular basis. They are not afraid of humans.
Here are some pictures taken in my back garden. This fox wanted to raid our dustbins.
Wow Vic, what an interesting and extensive post! I like all the pictures and images you have put too. And what a fascinating topic!
Even though this fox hunting scene in Downton Abbey isn’t perfect in terms of historical accuracy, I agree with one person you quoted who said we should still be glad they put a scene of this kind.
I can perfectly understand why some women participated in this activity – “the enjoyment, the wholesomeness, even the nerve-bracing dash of danger”, as you quoted it. I haven’t seen Downton Abbey, but I recently saw the BBC mini-series Daniel Deronda.
There is a scene into which Gwendolen Harleth (played by Romola Garai) takes part in a fox hunt. You can feel the excitement, brought by the crazy speed, the action, the unceasing barking of the dogs, the high leaps while horseback riding… and the danger – I was scared throughout that scene she might fall and break her neck.
P.S. Your dog is so cute btw. That part about him ”eating too many doggie biscuits to chase a fox into its den” made me chuckle.
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Great info Vic. They dressed the Hon. Evelyn Napier in pinks. Since he is visitor to Downton, that is an honor. (Added more mystique to the character in my mind. Why did he deserve the recognition?) BTW, Princess Anne is in dressage attire. Entirely different sport.
Thanks, LA. I knew you were an expert on the topic. I covered this one with trepidation. Shall take her image out and find another contemporary one.
Update, well, LA. I could find no other satisfactory example of a contemporary female riding dress, so shall leave the post without Princess Anne’s wonderful image. (She looked fabulous.) I’ll leave a description instead: Women these days wear riding clothes similar to a man’s, except when riding sidesaddle, when an apron covers the legs and resembles a skirt. It is open from the back, however.
Vic
What wonderful detail – and the comments by experts made it even more interesting. I never can understand why the TV companies can’t get an expert along for those scenes. Can’t cost too much.
By the way has anyone read the book about the history of the hunt at the Vyne (quite near to the house filmed for Downton Abbey)?
It was written by Jane Austen’s favourite nephew, the eldest on of James by his second marriage. I’ve seen an advertisement in Waterstones for a second hand copy:
Recollections of the Early Days of the Vine Hunt and of Its Founder William John Chute, by a Sexagenarian [J.E.a. Leigh.].
by James Edward Austen Leigh, William John Chute
Cora, here it is in Google books, full view. Enjoy.
Vic
http://books.google.com/books?id=GfQIAAAAQAAJ&dq=Recollections+of+the+Early+Days+of+the+Vine+Hunt+and+of+Its+Founder+William+John+Chute,&source=gbs_navlinks_s
Thank you, Vic, I’ve read loads of it and will download and read the rest. Another wonderful resource for the life and times of Jane Austen – all the old names coming up. Glad to see the Digweeds. I have a particular interest in them, especially in Harry, the boy next door for Jane.
Vic, I love reading your blog for all your well-researched information, but this time you let your own anti-hunting political agenda color your post. I’ve been reading Horse and Hounds for years and have followed this issue in the press as well – The Daily Telegraph is pretty good for hunt reporting.
Here’s the other side of the issue. A H and H columnist wrote to me in 2005 that the reason for the ban on hunting is the real estate developers and Commons wanted to bankrupt the countryside and take over the land. Much of the rural economy is tied up in the hunts.
The fox that gets caught is usually old or infirm. The hounds usually don’t catch younger foxes. The animals are in shock when caught so whether or not they feel pain is up for debate. Yes, this is a cruel part of hunt, but the big picture is also. The foxes hunt farm animals and sink their teeth into innocent domestic sheep who have no defense.
The anti-hunt people want country farmers to use guns to keep the foxes away. This doesn’t work and the foxes get wounded and limp away in pain. Hunting does deter the foxes from going near the properties where the hunt occurs.
I hope this helps clarify some issues.
Thank you, Marzi! I can well believe that real estate developers (as well as animal rights activists) are behind the ban. I was absolutely astounded to learn how much a traditional hunt adds to the economy of the region and that this enrichment has been happening in a significant way since the 18th century.
Just curiously, did the two images (one of the hunters with their cheeky comments and the other of the hound and the fox cub) place me on the anti-hunting agenda? I thought I had skirted that issue and kept a fairly neutral stance.
I do have a soft stomach when it comes to viewing a kill, but then, I am the sort who catches spiders and moths inside my house and places them outside again, and thus I have a habit of saying that poor so and so.
I frankly don’t know where I stand on the hunting ban, for, as you rightly pointed out, foxes are still being killed as vermin, so the ban to stop an age old tradition does not make sense.
Am very excited that a hunt is to be depicted, even though I know the errors will drive me crazy. Am like the above, just happy they are showing it at all. I think you have seemed to side with the anti’s because you said “the poor fox is flushed out…”. I hunt here in Kentucky and we rarely kill a fox, mostly coyote who are much more of a problem for our landowners than the fox ever was, mostly for sheep-keepers. Even so, we don’t get too many. By the way, hounds are NEVER referred to as dogs. Always hounds. You will get chastised if you call them dogs. :-)
Ah, thank you, Kate. I will fix the hounds/dogs mix-up and have taken out the references to “poor” fox, because that word does place me in the pro-fox/hunting ban category.
You see, I am still responding viscerally to what happened to a pair of beautiful silver foxes that lived in my neighborhood for a few short months before a neighbor placed poisoned food out for them. They did not die easily, but slowly and painfully. (I also wonder how many other animals ate that poisoned food.) The last time I saw the last of the pair of foxes, it was hideously thin and had huge sores on its backside (I wonder if it had been shot.)
Since then I have only thought about “poor” foxes.
Thanks, Vic. There’s more information here –
http://www.countryside-alliance.org.uk/
I viewed this video about stag hunting on the site you provided, Marzi. Fascinating how a badly written law can affect so many others adversely. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN82dFjO9qI&feature=player_embedded#!
Thank you so much for all of the information. I had no idea I was even interested in this topic until I started reading your wonderful post. Thank you.
I must come in on this, although I know I should not.
I was very much against fox hunting and am a great animal lover. However…
I moved from southern England to this very remote part of Ireland about fifteen years ago. We bought in the early 1990s a twenty acre farm (for £15000!) and, a few years later, decided to take early retirement and live out the rest of our lives in this beautiful environment. Our neighbours are very poor farmers with small farms in an infertile area – extremely nice people, but totally dependant on the new calves and lambs in order to make ends meet.
Twice in the last ten years we have found a fox dead of shotgun wounds on our land.
In each case that poor fox had to crawl the length of three fields in order to die in peace.
I have changed my views on fox hunting.
Those farmers are not being responsible hunters either. Obviously they are not making clean shots and/or tracking their prey to make sure they are dead. A proper shot will kill an animal instantly. I don’t think their irresponsibility makes the cruelty of a fox hunt any better. Those foxes in your yard bled out but at least they didn’t have to suffer being torn to pieces while alive.
Wow . . . this is really interesting! My father’s paternal side is from Loudoun/Fauquier counties and my grandfather was a horse trainer in the racing industry. So he may well have started out taking care of horses at one of these farms. In the photo album that my father inherited, there is a picture of what looks like one of those fox hunts. It’s not a very clear picture, but that is what it looks like to me .
Fascinating! I live in Fairfax County, next to Loudoun County and have seen the signs for the Steeplechase but never gone. I’ve been to Middleburg several times but never seen riders, though I’ve seen the shops they must go to. This was really an enlightening post!
I’m grateful to you and the other bloggers who are giving us details on Downton Abbey. I’m loving it and find it all the more enriched by knowing more of the background. I asked several friends at church today if they were enjoying it and they looked blankly at me. Is there anyway for them to catch the first episode or will they have to wait for the DVD? (That’ll just give me an excuse to have them over for a video party with tea!)
Karen, the first two episodes are available online at PBS until Feb 22.
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Of course we can always rely on Oscar Wilde to provide an apt quote.
He said that fox hunting was, referring to the participants,
“the unspeakable in full pursuit of the uneatable.”
The thing about the banning fox hunting affecting the economy of the countryside. It hasn’t significantly.
“The Burns Inquiry identified that between 6,000 and 8,000 full time jobs depend on hunting in the UK, of which about 700 result from direct hunt employment and 1,500 to 3,000 result from direct employment on hunting-related activities.
Since the ban in the UK, there has been no evidence of significant job losses, and hunts have continued to operate along limited lines, either trail hunting, or claiming to use exemptions in the legislation.”
While I love Oscar Wilde I have always taken exception to that particular quote. :-)
The reason the ban hasn’t affected the hunt related job market in a significant way is that hunting did not stop. They found ways round the silly legislation. It is to be hoped that the new regime will repeal the law.
I must say I really enjoyed last nights depiction of the hunt. They got it right in a lot of ways. The horses, in particular, were proper looking hunt horses and well turned out. Bravo. The mistakes were small and could be ignored if one tried.
Very informative post. Thanks for putting so much effort into researching it and sharing the correct information. PLEASE don’t underestimate your terrier! Just because he may be too big to fit inside a vermin den doesn’t mean he won’t try! Our Cairn Terrier wandered off one day when she was elderly and sick and when we finally found her we discovered she had been hunting a fox! She was off a few feet but she sure did try to find that den. (No skunk, squirrel, chipmunk, mole or opossum was safe from her in her youth but she had never gone after larger vermin before). Give your terrier a kiss on his adorable nose from me!
I loved that you included comments from the Horse and Hounds forum – very interesting details added to a very informative article.
Wonderful post and excellent commentary. It is increasingly rare to be able to see a vanished past so clearly. Fox hunting, great country houses, rigid social classes–Julian Fellowes brings it all back to life so convincingly in Downton Abbey. I used to fox hunt while going to school in Virginia. Never saw a fox, but had a glorious time jumping coops and ditches on a gelding named Jasper. Also learned beagling—a great way for young riders to learn the etiquette of the hunt before taking the field.
I am a side saddle rider from israel , I would love to participate in a hunt one day, even a scent hunt. If anybody can explain me how overseas guests can particiapte, thanks so much
Gabriella
Gabriella,
You don’t say if you now live in a fox hunting country or are still in Israel or if you will be soon visiting a fox hunting country. However, I can tell you how to proceed. If/when you want to hunt with an organized pack (recognized by the Master of Fox Hounds Association) you must contact a Master of the hunt with which you want to hunt (you can google a hunt and find this info) and request permission to hunt. Many hunts even have “guest” horses (usually available from their huntsman) that you can lease for the day. These are usually solid citizens capable of carrying a knowledgeable rider through their countryside. If you get permission you need to find out the pertinent information (when, where, attire (ratcatcher or formal)) and go from there. Hope this isn’t too confusing. I also might suggest going to a meet on foot a time or two to see how it works and introduce yourself to the masters.
I hunt with the Vine and Craven and everyone still talks about that day filming for Downton! I think the only thing that is absent from the discussion here is the understanding of the sense of community that is built around the hunt. My godmother used to be master of another hunt and so lived in hunt-owned accommodation way out in the countryside. One of her few neighbours was elderly and infirm and so the NHS (free national health service to Americans) gave her a fall alarm. However, instead of the usual connection to hospital, it was linked to my godmother’s house, as she’d be able to help her faster.
An additional contextual point: although, of course, a highly stratified society in both Edwardian and earlier times, there was far greater interaction between different classes than would occur in urban spaces. For example, the Master would invariably be upper class, whilst the huntsman may be from any social background (although always with a rural background) and the terrier men (the ones who train and work the terriers) would be from the rural labouring classes; however, despite their different backgrounds, all would all work very closely together.
Also, the huntsman is the most important man in the field. If he’s coming through, there are calls of “hunt please” and everyone must turn and face him and make space (this has a logical reason – stops excited horses from kicking the huntsman’s horse!). The “field” (followers) must never go beyond or disobey the Master, who looks after and guides the field and makes sure they don’t get too close to the huntsman or, worse, ride over the scent.
As a side note, I’m a researcher in the English Department at King’s College London and I’ll be teaching a three week summer course on Jane Austen’s England at the university in July 2012. Email me if you would like to find out more! emma.newport@kcl.ac.uk
Looking for infor about silver toasting cups that were used before hunt began. This informative article included everything but!
Cups are bell shaped, with animal heads and are stable upright or upside down.
Anyone have photos or further information?
Thanks
Did anyone notice that the hunting scene in Downton Abbey takes place end of May?!
Not only was it filmed in springtime, but according to the storyline it took place in the second half of May 1912, approximately five weeks after the sinking of the Titanic and before May 29th, when the village fair would start.
Alas, there is no foxhunting in May, nor any hunting with hounds whatsoever, nor has there never been. Even the long staghunting season is off from May to July. Foxhunting starts as cubhunting in September, hunting proper starts Nov. 1st and ends some time in March!
Nevertheless, I agree that we shouln’t be too picky about the inaccuracies, but be thankful that hunting got a place in this prime-time drama at all!
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I have fox hunted in the past and found it exciting beyond words. Kick-on.
Until now the Jane Austen Society Website and events were a peaceful heaven to visit. How sad to see it turn into a conservative pro-fox hunting lobby while this country is engulfed by poverty, mental illness and floods and landslides etc.
Interesting comment about the hook and lash on “that daft lady (Mary)”.
I wonder what kind of saddle they used back then in 1900. I ride cross country and hunt occasionally and can’t imagine riding and jumping on any saddle other than the current “English forward riding” saddle.
I was also told that they did not go to “to point” position and “release” the horse when jumping. How did they do it back then? Sitting deep all the way like on western saddle and keeping loose rein? It will be interesting if someone can shed some light on this.
I am disturbed and disappointed that the account of foxes is inaccurate, scientific figures show there is no increase in the fox population, a study was done by Bristol University involving farmers and veterinarians this also covered the periods when there was foot and mouth, so hunting was banned and there were no increases to the fox populations. As a reader suggested it is sad that Jane Austin has been used for pro-hunters delight. Any sport involving cruelty which fox hunting is has no part to play in the 21st century. I have just discovered that although fox hunting was banned in 2004, enforced february 2005 it is still carried out on a weekly basis by people arrogant enough to think they are above the law. It is a myth that foxes are vermin, if they were so why have we imported them from Europe in the past. They are a natural predator of rats rabbits and voles. Rats are classed as vermin, rabbits cause millions of pounds worth of damage to crops and grazing, voles eat the young plants. The fox helps with the populations and the study showed that foxes are financially neutral to farmers and the like. It also clearly showed that dog/fox attacks contribute to only 5% of lamb mortality (notice the report mentioned dog first) but that 95% of lamb fatality was poor husbandry. Im glad to know also that 2/3 of farmers oppose fox hunting and like the majority of the public feel it causes unnecessary suffering cruelty pain. Please see thefoxwebsite